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Messages : 1161 Date d'inscription : 23/11/2009 Age : 41 Localisation : Nice, sud de la France
Sujet: Ace of Spades Jeu 22 Sep 2011 - 23:08
Pas pu tester (je verrai ça la semaine prochaine, encore), mais ça a l'air bien sympathique : http://ace-spades.com/ Un mélange entre Minecraft (construction et destruction de blocs bien cubiques), etTeam Fortress (jamais joué, mais c'est ce qu'ils disent). Ca ressemble à un bon FPS bien dynamique et la dimension Minecraft apporte un énorme intérêt (construction de bunker, de planques, de tour à snipers...).
Bref, je jetterai un œil. Si un mec qui a du temps libre peut déjà faire un petit compte rendu, je serais curieux de lire ça
http://ace-spades.com/
PiR ToriObsédé
Messages : 881 Date d'inscription : 03/12/2009 Age : 29 Localisation : coucou tu veux un morceau ^^ ?
Sujet: Re: Ace of Spades Ven 23 Sep 2011 - 0:40
le concept est tres sympa mais les kills et les bonhommes laisse a désirer
ça sent quand meme une grosse copie de minecraft
XeoStyle ToriDédié
Messages : 358 Date d'inscription : 01/09/2010 Age : 27 Localisation : Je suis un Hapiste , et bim !
Sujet: Re: Ace of Spades Ven 23 Sep 2011 - 8:40
Serieux j'ai vraiment cru que t'avais poster sa :
Snion il a l'air sympa se jeu, perso, je pense l'essayer, si ma connexion le veut bien ... ><
Melmoth le Malmoth
Messages : 1161 Date d'inscription : 23/11/2009 Age : 41 Localisation : Nice, sud de la France
Sujet: Re: Ace of Spades Ven 23 Sep 2011 - 10:52
Ouaip, j'ai omis de préciser que le jeu avait un nom bien cool, en effet
Perso, je vais test aussi, mais plus pour le côté minecraft.
Dans le sens ou si je veux un FPS arcade et fun, je me tourne vers TF2 ou CoD, mais je trouve que le dynamisme et le fun de TF n'est pas présent dans ce jeu. J'ai pas pu tâter TF bien longtemps (pas plus de 3 heures), mais en regardant le gameplay de 15 minutes, je trouve ça pas super nerveux. Le côté minecraft est une très bonne idée en revanche, pour les stratèges, c'est parfait. Encore une fois, c'est plus le côté FPS qui me déplaît. Et les armes sont quand même pas super, le sniper, on dirait un intervention trop pixélisé et moche :p
Enfin, c'est qu'une impression sur les vidéos proposées, reste à voir ce que ça fait ingame.
Matthieu Puma is Better Than You
Messages : 452 Date d'inscription : 25/11/2009 Age : 29 Localisation : Behind You
Sujet: Re: Ace of Spades Ven 23 Sep 2011 - 20:16
Go tester !!!
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Sujet: Re: Ace of Spades Ven 23 Sep 2011 - 20:18
très bon jeu mais avec l'inspiration de minecraft qui avait d'ailleurs "copié" 2 jeu Et comment on se connecte sur le serveur que l'on vient de créé?
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Messages : 358 Date d'inscription : 01/09/2010 Age : 27 Localisation : Je suis un Hapiste , et bim !
Sujet: Re: Ace of Spades Ven 23 Sep 2011 - 20:25
Citation :
Autant jouer a minecraft en multi avec le mod weapons
Je pourrais répondre : "Autant faire une serveur online 32 slot sans bug + Bukkit + mod arme ... bonne chance"
Et pour répondre à Flo, le jeu est en Beta "0.58" donc peut-être pouvons nous nous attendre à quelque update sympa ? Il faudrait aussi se faire une partie sur le meme serveur avec skype !
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Sujet: Re: Ace of Spades Ven 23 Sep 2011 - 20:30
XeoStyle a écrit:
Citation :
Autant jouer a minecraft en multi avec le mod weapons
Je pourrais répondre : "Autant faire une serveur online 32 slot sans bug + Bukkit + mod arme ... bonne chance"
j'ai changer mon message je me suis trompé
XeoStyle ToriDédié
Messages : 358 Date d'inscription : 01/09/2010 Age : 27 Localisation : Je suis un Hapiste , et bim !
Sujet: Re: Ace of Spades Ven 23 Sep 2011 - 21:19
Ayant jouer un peu au jeu et farfouiller dans les fichiers, je suis tomber sur sa :
The user interface isn't so easy right now - there are a lot of keys you need to memorize. There are a lot of weird combinations that are useful, but sometimes it's not so obvious, so please explore and try to be creative. In my documentation, when I use the word "box", I am referring to a cube, where the lengths of the 3 sides aren't necessarily of equal length. I prefer to reserve the word "rectangle" for 2D primitives only. Also, any controls that have a prefix of "KP" means that I'm talking about the key on the KeyPad. One of the most confusing things are the 3 different types of cursors. You should try to understand this before reading the rest of the documentation.
Screen-cursor: This is the dot that's ALWAYS in the center of the screen.
Numbered-cursor: These are the "spheres" that appear when you press SPACE bar. They have a number in the middle of them, starting with 0 and incrementing as you insert more of them (up to 100). They are intended mainly for editing functions which require 3 or more points as input (for example, the sector & lathe tools) These cursors can only be moved by dragging them with the mouse. These are usually used BEFORE you insert an object.
Mini-cursor: These are smaller "spheres" that get inserted automatically after you insert an object, such as a box or sphere. They have no numbers inside them. Mini-cursors must be moved with the keypad controls: (1,2,3,4,5,Enter) These are usually used AFTER you insert an object.
------------------------------- GETTING AROUND -------------------------------
ESC Quit M Map Mouse X/Y Turn left/right, Look up/down (Press 'Y' to invert) Arrows Move Forward/Backward/Left/Right R.CTRL Move Up KP0 Move Down R.SHIFT Hold down to speed up movement (by 4 times) L.SHIFT Hold down to slow down movement (by 4 times) KP*, KP/ Zoom in/out. Use the other / (next to SHIFT) to reset R.MouseBut Hold this down and move mouse left/right to tilt screen.
(These functions don't require an understanding of the cursor types)
Home Insert sphere (mini-cursor becomes center) End Delete sphere (mini-cursor becomes center) ALT+Home Voxel spray (hold it down) - works like spraypaint, but inserts voxels instead of changing color. ALT+End Voxel suck (hold it down): works like spraypaint, but deletes voxels instead of changing color.
[ and ] Decrease/increase radius of sphere, ellipsoid, or cylinder ; and ' Change superquadric power (p) of sphere (default:p=2) abs(x)^p + abs(y)^p + abs(z)^p = r^p Notice when p=2 in this equation, it's a sphere. Sounds complex, but it really isn't. Try it! These keys also change the brightness of the flash function
X Paint color onto individual voxel permanently Tab Select current drawing color to color under screen-cursor KP+ and KP- Change procedural texture. There are 7 currently defined: 0:cur Solid color from the color bar 1:floor Set to first color below position (default) 2:jit Take current color and randomize a little 3:many A funny looking RGB color cube 4:sph Use this one for shading spheres 5:wood An interesting wood pattern 6:png Enabled when you load a PNG file using 'V' key, otherwise it acts like the "0:cur" mode.
\ Undo/Redo most recent modification
------------------------------ COLOR SELECTION -------------------------------
Color can be selected before you insert an object, but it is best to select it afterwards, so you don't end up changing the color of the previous object.
L.Enter Activate/Deactivate color bar L.MouseBut Select color (when color bar is activated) R.MouseBut Hold and move mouse up/down. Use this to change the palette brightness (when color bar is activated)
I recommend you saving the map BEFORE you go nuts with the lighting. This is because the lighting functions tend to deteriorate the colors of the map if you use them too much.
F Flash! This is the main lighting function. Press it and everything you can see (within a distance) will brighten. ALT+F Old flash. Use in the same way as F, but this uses an older lighting algorithm which has moire pattens on the curves. Caps Lock Darken all intensities on map by 25% Useful before a flash. Z Hold to blend nearby intensities. Use this to remove the aliasing you see after a "flash". SHIFT+Z Hold to blend nearby voxel colors. S Hold to delete thin voxels. By thin voxel, I mean any voxel with air on opposite sides. If you use this before a "flash", you can improve the lighting. (It removes the possibility of a voxel getting brightened on one side and it appearing bright on the back side as well.) L.CTRL Hold to brighten area slowly, randomly, & smoothly. This is a different effect from "flash", and also a lot slower. L.CTRL+L.ALT Hold to darken area slowly, randomly, and smoothly.
KP1,KP2,KP3,KP5 Move mini-cursor Forward/Backward/Left/Right 1 unit KP4 Move mini-cursor Up 1 unit KPEnter Move mini-cursor Down 1 unit KP. If .KV6 sprite is selected, this x-flips the object (so the writing is backwards). This is a good way to save memory. KP9 Toggle between 1 mini-cursor and all mini-cursors. When you see only 1 mini-cursor, dragging that point will move just that 1 point. When you see more than 1 mini-cursor, the keypad controls will move the entire object without changing its size. When you switch back to the 1 mini- cursor, the vertex selected is the one closest to the voxel under the screen-cursor. Has no effect for objects that use only 1 mini-cursor.
NOTE: Some of these keys also let you manipulate numbered cursors.
Space Insert numbered-cursor. A sphere with a number inside it is inserted at the point under the screen-cursor. Backspace Remove last numbered-cursor / Remove ALL numbered-cursors. Also resets zoom & angle mode.
L.MouseBut Drag numbered-cursor (direction restricted to the arrows) L+R MouseButs When dragging numbered-cursors around, use this to change the axes. You should see the "arrows" change orientation. Note: You must have BOTH mouse buttons held down! PGUP/PGDN Raise lower ceiling/floor of sector object. You must have at least 3 numbered-cursors for this to take effect.
Insert/Delete: Less than 2 numbered-cursors active: Insert/Delete box. The box starts out as an individual voxel (1*1*1) where both mini-cursors are at the same point. To incease the size, use the mini-cursor controls: (1,2,3,5,4,Enter on keypad) 2 or more numbered-cursors active: Fills the selected volume with solid voxels (Insert) or air (Delete). Special mode: if you have 3 or more numbered-cursors, and you select .PNG procedural texturing, then it will treat the alpha channel as a signed-char height offset for 3D bump-mapping.
E / SHIFT+E Insert/Delete Ellipsoid (The mini-cursors are the foci) L / SHIFT+L Insert/Delete Cylinder/Line (The mini-cursors are endpoints) W / SHIFT+W Insert/Delete Walls. You must have at least 3 numbered- cursors first to use this. Then you must use PGUP/PGDN. C / SHIFT+C Insert/Delete Ceiling. Requires >= 3 numbered-cursors. T / SHIFT+T Insert/Delete Rotational sweep. Requires >= 3 numbered- cursors. Cursors #0 and #1 become axis of rotation. Everything on the right side of a clockwise-drawn loop will be included as part of the object. It's ok to have points on the left side of the axis, but that area will be ignored. H / SHIFT+H Insert/Delete a randomly generated convex hull. B / SHIFT+B Insert/Delete Blobs. Requires numbered-cursors. (Not fully working yet) 3 Insert triangle. You must have at least 3 numbered cursors.
4 3D floodfill, starting at camera's location. Floodfill is restricted to numbered-cursor boxes if there are 2 cursors. 5 Lassoo tool. This tool is for filling in cracks - polygons that don't have coplanar points. Press '5' with the mouse cursor on each point of a loop and you should see a path connecting from the previous point. Make sure there is a relatively short path (< ~128 voxels) along the surface between each pair of points. When you complete the loop, press '6' to fill in the gaps. 6 Used in conjunction with '5'. See '5'.
D Duplicate box. First specify source box using two numbered- cursors. Then press D at the point where you want numbered-cursor #0 to be copied to. Shift+D Same as 'D' but doesn't copy air voxels.
U Insert .KV6/.KVX/.VOX file. If you select a .KV6 file, then the object will stay separated from the map. If you select a .KVX/.VOX file, then the object will permanently become a part of the map.
You can use 'U' to insert a dummy "DOT" sprite. To do this, type any invalid filename, such as "ASDF" at the openfile dialog and it will be saved as "DOT" in the .SXL file.
You can use 'U' to insert a dummy "BOX" sprite. To do this, first make a box with 2 numbered cursors, then press 'U'. It uses the vx5sprite .s field for the first corner, vx5sprite .h for the second corner, and .p for the "sphere" handle in VOXED. You can use this info too.
V Set procedural texture to .PNG file. P Paints selected .PNG file onto the voxel map, projected in exactly the same way as what you're looking at. = First select a box with 2 numbered cursors. This key then re-calculates all colors inside the box, preserving the state of air or solid.
KP6 For .KVX/.VOX: Rotate object (Switches between x,y,z axis) KP7,KP8,KP9 For .KVX/.VOX: Flip/Mirror axis (I don't remember which key does what, but I know all 48 possible 90ø cases are in there. Keep pressing on the keys until it looks right.)
KP7,KP8 For .KV6: Rotate object left/right KP6,KP9 For .KV6: Rotate object up/down (depends on your orientation)
-------------------- MODES & OTHER MISCELLANEOUS CONTROLS --------------------
` Toggle global shading mode: 0: no shading (default) 1: normal estimation, light sources (in this mode, pressing 'F' inserts a temporary light source) 2: normal estimation, no light sources (brighter!) KP. Toggle shading (default) / no shading on cube faces (if .KV6 sprite is not selected). , and . Select raycast resolution (1-16), 1:best quality&default R Toggle smart raycast resolution mode (lower quality when turning quickly, higher quality when still) Default is disabled. Numlock Toggle raycasting cut-off distance: 256 (default) or no limit (slow, especially if you're outside) A Toggle anglemode (horizon correction (default) vs. free direction) G Toggle grid and grid alignment size (16 or 32)
2 Shoot an invisible fireball (just a toy) F10 Enable MIP-MAPPING.
Scroll lock Panic Quit (DOS version only): Use to escape from lock-ups. Try to avoid using this key whenever possible.
ALT+F2 Load .VXL map. ALT+F3 Save .VXL map. (NOTE: Use F3 to save .SXL separately) F3 Save .SXL file. (Game data: sky, sprite locations, etc...) F5 Load new sky from file. F6 Edit global user string (stored in .SXL files) F7 Save floating object to .KV6 (put cursor on object)
F12 Screencapture exactly what you see to VXL5####.PNG ALT+F12 Surroundcapture to VXL5####.PNG (2560*1024 resolution)
NOTE: Both F12 and ALT-F12 create valid .PNG files, but I use absolutely NO COMPRESSION when storing them! You can reduce their size A LOT if you are willing to re-compress them with another utility.
------------------------ Known Limitations / Problems ------------------------
Pentium III only! A lot of my new sprite & z-buffer code uses the new Pentium III instructions. If you don't have a Pentium III or compatible processor, then the engine will give an invalid opcode exception. It would probably take a few hours to get the code working again on an MMX-capable machine (with a noticable decrease in frame rate).
Memory: You WILL need at least 128MB of RAM to run this. Do not attempt to run it on anything less.
"alloc: vbuf full". Right now, I allocate 64MB of memory to store the voxel map. If voxlap5 suddenly exits out with this message, it means the board is too complex - too much surface area for the board map to fit within this limit, or the memory is too fragmented. In the future, I might implement a way of defragmenting the cache, or a better warning, or maybe even a disk cacheing system so this never happens.
The following issue applies to the DOS version only:
VESA 2.0 linear mode crashes under NT. I don't know why, but I know how to replace the code with slower VESA code that doesn't crash.
-------------------------------- COMMAND LINE --------------------------------
>voxed [SXL/VXL/DTA/BSP map name] [/(xdim)x(ydim)] [/win] (options can be listed in any order)
If you do not specify a Master sprite file (.SXL), Voxlap5 format (.VXL), Comanche format (.DTA), or Quake 3 format (.BSP), then voxlap5 tries to load VXL/DEFAULT.SXL. If that doesn't exist, then it loads a built-in map, with a gray plain, called "UNTITLED.VXL". You start inside a box in the middle. Voxlap5 supports all 32-bit color modes where xdim<=640 and ydim<=480. Default is 320*200 fullscreen mode. If the mode isn't found, then the DOS version defaults to true-color emulation mode (320x400 8 bit color which should work on all VGA compatible video cards). The windows version has no emulation mode and just exits with an error message.
Some examples: >voxed /640x480 Use hi-res VESA mode (640x480x32) To specify resolution, you must have a lowercase 'x' separating the x- and y- dimensions and there can't be any spaces in between. >voxed /480x360 /win Set resolution to 480x360 and use windowed mode instead of fullscreen. >voxed 1 If you have Novalogic's classic game Comanche Maximum Overkill, then copy (C1.DTA & D1.DTA) into the voxlap directory and it will load them. >voxed c:\games\id\q3ademo\demoq3\q3dm17.bsp If you extract *.BSP from Quake3's PAK0.PK3 file, then it will convert the geometry from a Quake map. No textures are converted, so the best way to view the map is to go wild and press 'F' everywhere. >voxed asdf Force loading of boring gray plain (assuming asdf doesn't exist) >voxed /0 Forces truecolor emulation (DOS version only)
------------------------ Documentation Update History ------------------------
11/20/2000: VOXLAP5 documentation first written 11/21/2000: Documentation revised for clarity 02/25/2001: Added windows command line info 03/19/2001: Made DOS command line same as windows version 03/28/2001: Added documentation for P & = 05/16/2001: Updated for .KV6 keys (KP6-KP9) 06/23/2001: Updated limitations, added 3D bump & Q3 info 03/05/2002: Added some info about .SXL files & new keys related to lighting 05/14/2002: Added info about 4,5,6,Shift+D, and dummy sprite info with 'U'
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ VOXLAP5 programmed by Ken Silverman (http://www.advsys.net/ken) Modified by Ben Aksoy (http://www.ace-spades.com)
Chercher "voxed" dans vos dossiers : Voxed est en faite d'un "editeur" de maps , un truc qui pourrais être sympa (Si ont arrive a capté un mot d'anglais...). Il dois surement être relier à "server" .
Je vais tenter quand même de faire 2-3 choses avec Voxed, et je pense faire un compte rendu du jeu dans 2-3 jours .
PS : pour se qui hésite , le jeu fait 4,29 mo, en gros, c'est presque du vol...
slimseig ToriDédié
Messages : 201 Date d'inscription : 18/07/2010 Age : 41
Sujet: Re: Ace of Spades Dim 25 Sep 2011 - 14:29
Pas mal... Grosse galère pour jouer perso, j'ai du installer Chrome au final car Firefox ne voulait pas. Mais j'ai scotché hier soir, bien fun. Je suis pas non plus un gamer fps, donc j'ai pas trop de référence, mais bien. Un coté tactique en plus avec la construction/destruction. Graphisme et gameplay très simple, ça me va. Faudrait se test une partie tb-fr pour bien se marrer.
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Messages : 358 Date d'inscription : 01/09/2010 Age : 27 Localisation : Je suis un Hapiste , et bim !
Sujet: Re: Ace of Spades Sam 17 Déc 2011 - 21:59
Je j'y joue pas mal en se moment avec un ami (GunFace si vous vous rappelez ), et j'ai pondu 2 - 3 clips sympa filmer avec fraps. Aller, je suis gentil :
Moi aussi j'y jouais hier sur ce serveur. C'est quoi ton pseudo dessus ? Et sinon, comment t'as fait pour avoir le sniper, parce que je suis un n00bz total et que j'ai que les 3 permiers guns là.
XeoStyle ToriDédié
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Sujet: Re: Ace of Spades Dim 18 Déc 2011 - 17:07
Euh, comment dire... [FAIL]XeoStyle , comme dab .
PS pour flo : GunFace = Xx-GuI-Yo-TeEn-xX = [FAIL]MrClank Et pour le snipe : http://ace-spade-france.forumgratuit.org/f5-tutoriels-et-conseils
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Sujet: Re: Ace of Spades Lun 19 Déc 2011 - 21:16
Je vous l'avais promis , là voilà ! 7 minutes de (bon ?) gameplay en musique !
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